08:59:47 From Brett Biebuyck : I'm going to be a little distracted with some domestic things, but I'm looking forward to the session! 09:27:08 From Phoebe Jekielek to FLBS (J Nigon)(Privately) : Hi there! I can’t stay for the entire presentation…will the recording be shared?? 09:29:21 From FLBS (J Nigon) to Phoebe Jekielek(Privately) : Hi Phoebe - yes, a link to the recording will be distributed to participants. 09:29:45 From Phoebe Jekielek to FLBS (J Nigon)(Privately) : Thank you!! 09:30:11 From Jennifer Seavey : What about training/educating/encouraging the administrations who might hire the women leaders? Training me is nice but i need the people in power above me to acknowledge etc. what solutions address that? 09:30:43 From Jennifer Seavey : thanks 09:30:44 From Teresa Cohn : How can we get involved? 09:31:21 From Eric Nagy : Did you explore the importance of mentorship in the survey? Does diversity or local mentorship it make a difference how folks feel? 09:32:51 From Lara Roketenetz : Thank you all. Association of Nature Center Administrators has a mentoring program so maybe that would be a good place to investigate 09:33:00 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : Will any of the trainings be tailored or available to graduate students? 09:33:12 From Beth Norman : "Buy in" inducements or strategies may differ between stations affiliated with universities and those that are not 09:34:07 From Jennifer Seavey : One idea: Any certification system should have proof of administrator action/buy in as well as field station policies etc 09:34:49 From Lara Roketenetz : I think assembling a range of salaries for varying positions at FSML would be helpful (like glassdoor) for negotiating power. 09:35:08 From Susan Flowers (she/her) : ^^^^ 09:36:03 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : I think all public universities publish salaries; that may be a way to track down more information about women v men compensation in field station positions. 09:36:12 From Tori McDermott : Great idea! 09:36:52 From Lara Roketenetz : My public university somehow made it quite difficult to access salaries. You know have to do a records request of the BOT minutes instead of it being readily accessible 09:37:36 From Peter McCartney : Posting salary ranges in job announcements and NOT asking applicants for salary histories does a lot for flattening the field. 09:38:06 From Elizabeth Long (she/her) : Agreed, Peter. I think NYS just made it illegal to ask for history for that reason 09:38:19 From Peter McCartney : Great presentation, Leaders. Im going to skip to the other concurrent session which my program also funded. 09:38:21 From Jennifer Seavey : Yes- to what Peter said- I have read some studies about salary history 09:40:05 From Elizabeth Long (she/her) : Beth and Seavey- thanks for those points about administrative buy-in. I think that’s one of the most challenging aspects of this, so the more thoughtful we can be about what will and won’t work, the better 09:40:18 From Tori McDermott : ^^ 09:41:05 From Sofía Rodríguez B. : Fantastic program! I would love to stay but I have another meeting. Thanks! 09:41:54 From Alicia Farmer - UMBS (she/her) : Leadership: implementing the organization’s vision 09:41:58 From Eric Nagy (he/him) : Leadership - freedom to speak 09:42:00 From Susan Flowers (she/her) : Leadership = ability to organize others to work together 09:42:02 From Alicia Farmer - UMBS (she/her) : Also making difficult decisions 09:42:26 From Kristen Haynes : Leadership: Providing guidance to others or an organization, while listening to collective thoughts 09:42:29 From Alicia Farmer - UMBS (she/her) : Motivating/empowering the rest of the organization’s members to do their best. 09:42:29 From Heather Constable : Leadership - organizing teams to accomplish larger goals 09:42:30 From Susan Flowers (she/her) : Power = ability to act independently 09:42:32 From Jennifer Seavey : Leadership not = power. Though I think most people think this 09:42:41 From Stacy McNulty (she/her) : Yes Jenn! 09:42:41 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : Leadership: facilitating the best work possible by everyone on the team 09:42:56 From Kristen Haynes : Power is autonomy, and influence over others 09:42:56 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : Power = control to direct outcomes 09:42:58 From Heather Constable : Power = control, authority, money 09:43:02 From Stacy McNulty (she/her) : Power = concentration of resources 09:43:05 From Lara Roketenetz : Providing direction for the mission and vision 09:44:24 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : Clarity, especially in communication. Both our own and helping others achieve that clarity. 09:44:31 From Beth Norman : good leaders listen to others 09:44:33 From Jennifer Seavey : Good leader- holding others up, thinking beyond yourself, putting strategic plan first 09:44:37 From Susan Flowers (she/her) : A good leader can attend to big picture and small details at the same time 09:44:38 From Eric Nagy (he/him) : Mentor - empathy 09:44:39 From Lara Roketenetz : Smart, funny, kind, compassionate, empathetic, savvy, hard-working, good communicator, innovative 09:44:40 From Heather Constable : Building skills 09:44:58 From Kristen Haynes : Good leader = listening; servant-leader; supporting others 09:44:59 From Jennifer Seavey : Good listener, non reactive 09:45:07 From Trevor Hebert : Leader = taking responsibility 09:45:12 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : I think of mentor as more holistic than leader 09:45:19 From Susan Flowers (she/her) : The are both about modeling 09:45:25 From Lara Roketenetz : A mentor is empowering 09:45:32 From Beth Norman : mentors don't have to have a formal leadership position 09:45:40 From Kristen Haynes : Can a leader be good without also being a mentor? 09:45:42 From Stacy McNulty (she/her) : Mentors aren't always people in direct supervisory roles, which can make them very high impact 09:45:51 From Eric Nagy (he/him) : Good leaders are good mentors. 09:45:55 From Jennifer Seavey : Good leader plays a mentor role at times but perhaps not always 09:46:04 From Susan Flowers (she/her) : ^^^ 09:46:10 From Lara Roketenetz : A leader might not be in the same field - lots of admins now are business folks not science folks 09:48:18 From Jennifer Seavey : I would want a mentor who has no power over me so I feel safe to share 09:48:23 From Alicia Farmer - UMBS (she/her) : I’d want to know what experience a potential mentor had 09:48:31 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : How do you learn best? What are your goals? 09:48:48 From Alicia Farmer - UMBS (she/her) : Do they (do we) share any minoritized identities? 09:48:55 From Jennifer Seavey : Important: consistency over time 09:49:08 From Lara Roketenetz : Communication "style" 09:49:09 From Kristen Haynes : Mentor information: personality is a big factor…but it is hard to put this into a question to ask on a survey! 09:49:12 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : Important aspects: opportunities to connect 09:49:22 From Teresa Schueller (she/her) : What were mentor/mentee experiences in the past? 09:49:44 From Alicia Farmer - UMBS (she/her) : What do THEY expect to get from a mentor role? 09:49:47 From Jennifer Seavey : Research shows that team mentoring is very effective for student research experiences- that might apply here too 09:50:07 From Lara Roketenetz : We have tiered mentoring at our U for undergrads and grads 09:50:10 From Kristen Haynes : How open does the mentee feel to share? 09:50:49 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : Something like the EvaluateUR model could be helpful adapted for field station career mentorship 09:51:01 From Jennifer Seavey : If you are trying to change culture- you are going to pick mentors very specifically / carefully 09:51:07 From Lara Roketenetz : Can we do an OBFS mentoring program? Rather than at just our institution? 09:51:25 From Heather Constable : Will you be pairing up interested people in the future? 09:51:31 From Alicia Farmer - UMBS (she/her) : ^ I like that. Our org. is so small that we’re already kind of mentoring each other. ;) 09:51:56 From Jennifer Seavey : OBFS would be much much better than within our institutions. Yes to Alicia! 09:52:37 From Kristen Haynes : So some studies have shown that women are also biased against women. Have you thought about tackling that in any way? 09:52:48 From Susan Flowers (she/her) : Adapting the Entering Mentoring curriculum to field station context would be helpful 09:53:11 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : Definitely need cross-station mentoring, because stations can be very isolated/isolating. 09:53:20 From Jennifer Seavey : Yes Cora 09:53:22 From Jennifer Gee : We are considering partnering people across stations, perhaps throughout OBFS members and beyond. 09:53:37 From Susan Flowers (she/her) : Yes! I would so be interested in this! 09:53:46 From Teresa Cohn : I love cross-station mentoring, perhaps with those in similar contexts. I'd love this! 09:54:05 From Stefanie Whitmire (she/her) : Yes, our field station is small… not sure mentors for faculty would be easy to find. 09:54:15 From Jennifer Gee : There used to be an exchange program between stations within OBFS 09:54:48 From Jennifer Seavey : This is why I was saying if we want to change culture…mentors need to committed this is idea 09:55:04 From Stefanie Whitmire (she/her) : I agree Jennifer 09:55:08 From Jennifer Gee : We could also consider a virtual exchange program, less official and intimidating than beginning a new mentoring relalationship. 09:55:34 From Tori McDermott : vmmcdermott@alaska.edu 09:55:36 From Eric Nagy (he/him) : Defining who is part of a "mentoing community" is complicated. I think we are all thinking about pairing women with women, or "likes with like" 09:55:40 From Jennifer Gee : jengee@ucr.edu 09:55:42 From Elizabeth Long (she/her) : Agreed, Stefanie- one of the problems in field stations is that we are usually small staff so finding a local mentor usually isn’t an option. Cross-station mentoring is criticial 09:55:49 From Eric Nagy (he/him) : Thank maybe a bias in and of itself... 09:56:07 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : Thanks for doing this - I think it sounds very promising (even if complicated). 09:56:12 From Jennifer Seavey : I also think peer to peer co-mentoring could help too 09:56:18 From Teresa Cohn : Yes on peer to peer 09:57:13 From Jennifer Gee : https://www.amazon.com/Every-Other-Thursday-Strategies-Successful/dp/0300510845 09:57:22 From Jennifer Seavey : YES! that was a cool idea 09:58:11 From Jennifer Seavey : We could form groups with in OBFS across similar job titles 09:58:20 From Tori McDermott : ^^ 09:58:25 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : Agreed 09:58:38 From Stefanie Whitmire (she/her) : Agreed Elizabeth 09:59:14 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : Maybe this is formal vs informal mentorship, and we're finding that we want both. 10:00:18 From Elizabeth Long (she/her) : Great point Cora 10:00:37 From Elizabeth Long (she/her) : Thanks for that Susan, 10:00:50 From Elizabeth Long (she/her) : Definitely!! 10:02:20 From Jennifer Gee : Yes, agreed, Cora. I hope we can recognize, value and are rewarded for mentoring efforts 10:02:44 From Lara Roketenetz : We used to have a women in science social hour 10:02:50 From Jennifer Gee : Yes, Jenn, we’ll work on it. 10:03:15 From Elizabeth Long (she/her) : Laura- at your institution, or at OBFS? 10:03:25 From Elizabeth Long (she/her) : Sorry Lara not Laura 10:03:29 From Cora Johnston (she/her) : Thank you! 10:03:33 From Sheena Parsons - KU Field Stn (she/her) : Thank you! 10:03:34 From Teresa Cohn : THANK YOU!!! 10:03:38 From Mariana Bonfim : Thank you!!! 10:03:42 From Jennifer Seavey : Thanks all. 10:03:43 From Alicia Farmer - UMBS (she/her) : Thank you! 10:03:43 From Eric Nagy (he/him) : Thanks! 10:03:45 From Susan Flowers (she/her) : Thank you! This project is wonderful! 10:03:47 From Teresa Schueller (she/her) : Thank you! 10:03:50 From Patti Beedles (she/her) University of Kansas Biological FS : Tremendous presentation! Thank you! 10:03:51 From Lara Roketenetz : At my institution but now there is only 1 female faculty member and the rest of us are staff 10:03:56 From Eric Nagy (he/him) : Really exciting. 10:03:56 From Kristen Haynes : Thanks so much! So glad you are working on this. 10:04:03 From Brett Biebuyck : Great work! Thanks! 10:04:09 From Stefanie Whitmire (she/her) : This project is great. I am interested in staying in touch about progress 10:04:25 From Lara Roketenetz : Thank you everyone - you all are awesome and I appreciate you so much. 10:04:32 From Tori McDermott : Just shoot us an email vmmcdermott@alaska.edu 10:04:38 From Tori McDermott : we will keep you in the loop! 10:04:45 From Stefanie Whitmire (she/her) : Thanks Tori!! 10:04:46 From Jennifer Seavey : OH good plug Elizabeth! 10:06:06 From Jennifer Seavey : Bye for now 10:06:31 From Stefanie Whitmire (she/her) : Thanks so much Jennifer and Tori!! And Elizabeth 10:06:41 From Trevor Hebert : Thanks!